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Paragliding in strong thermals | Face down spiral | Full asymmetric collapse | 7000 feet at Palomar

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Paragliding in strong thermals | Face down spiral | Full asymmetric collapse | 7000 feet at Palomar



14:10 Where I hit the shear
14:41 Sizable collaps
15:03 50% Collaps and heavy hands
15:48 Full stall and twist
There was a great laps rate this day. There was a convergence over palomar and everyone was getting to 7000 ft. I got whacked in the shear and didn’t give the correct input, fell into the soft side of the collaps and went into a face down spiral. This is stuff that you would normally want to learn in a SIV not over Palomar. After coming out of the first face down spiral, I was heavy handed and went into a spiral in the other direction. This is why you don’t buy a wing that is too spicy for you. This wing is a High B. Rook 2 MS. I fly pretty light on this wing. This day taught me quite a bit about what I don’t know.

Communicator, Fan, Golf Junky, Chihuahua Lover, Dishwater . I want to see your peacock.

22 Comments

22 Comments

  1. allthesecontinents

    November 25, 2017 at 1:47 pm

    Congratulations! You done SAT đŸ˜‰

  2. Grégoire Michiels

    November 27, 2017 at 1:06 pm

    Man, you really need to learn from a SIV course! It was a simple collapse and then it was due to your actions on the brakes … You need to learn how to exit a 360 spiral … how to manage a collapse, how to stall, how to fly reverse and how to go out … but first when to brake and when not to brake (it was a dynamic full stall). With this knowledge it is possible to be much more relaxed mentally and on the brakes. Pargliding is a long way, fly safe. (english is no my language)

  3. Stan Barankiewicz

    November 28, 2017 at 4:13 pm

    Yikes, that was scary sketch! I'm no expert, but it looked like you were in a SAT at times, rather than spiraling all of the time.

  4. Dušan Kogoj

    November 30, 2017 at 12:09 pm

    Slovenian paraglide, american hero :))

  5. SuperCodeL

    November 30, 2017 at 10:15 pm

    Hands up man, hands up!

  6. Adam Edgar

    November 30, 2017 at 10:48 pm

    Hi Rob,
    great video and i am glad that you are willing to share your experience and take naysayers comments on the cheek. There is always a lot of advice available and in reading between the lines on most of the comments below you have your answers…

    Just a little foreword…not all high end b's are too spicy. Most are meant to self recover however i think the issue here is not so much the wing, but your inputs made it very difficult for the wing to self recover sufficiently enough to avoid further escalation of the problem throughout this incident (for example wrong weightshift, wrong brake input, turning back into the shitfight, not trying to maintain straight and level at the earliest opportunity after each out of control event etc). I have seen En A wings do almost exactly the same thing when put into recoverable situations by pilots and but then kept in the wrong configuration by incorrect inputs.

    1. a little too much brake when shit hits the fan can be a double edge sword as it prevents the glider from being able to get its trim speed back again. If you then encounter more turbulence during the same manouvre, the second time round is worse, then third worse again, then full stall/riser twist/disaster. You always need to ensure that hands go back up to a position where you feel pressure but are not slowing wing down. A lot of low hour pilots will hang off the brakes in unbalanced scenarios…in my view it would be better to brake the golden rule and "hang off the risers" to regain your balance, if you must hang on at all!
    2. The sudden increase in rotation was right on the borderline spiral sat. The difference between the two in terms of brake positions is that getting into a sat is achieved by applying more brake to the lower wing tip with opposite weightshift at just the right time, thus dragging that tip above the horizon and with it comes a sudden increase in rotation speed. If you experience this then the exit is to ease off a bit on that tip whilst applying a proportionate amount of opposite brake exiting back into a spiral then normal spiral exit procedure back to level flight. I wont go into this as there are a number of different spiral exit options (ie the sudden stop big swing through, gradually reducing spirals, spiral/swing through/wing over/straight and level)

    I have heard about this site being dangerous…this video clearly illustrates just how agro it can be. I would hate to fly my competition wing there…looks like a pretty nasty site to fly with a lot of very complex terrain features below.

    I am particularly interested in the cloud formation in sky above you…quite whispy.

  7. vidimart

    November 30, 2017 at 11:01 pm

    rules number one when you find a good strong thermal stay in …

  8. Patrick Fain

    December 1, 2017 at 12:34 am

    Nope

  9. RainbowSixThree Enlightened

    December 1, 2017 at 6:11 am

    I've only flown my paramotor for a year and since I live in Jersey is really not much around for any local SIV type training. But you kept your cool I admire you for that and hopefully down the road I can hook up with some guys to help me out and keep me alive. Thanks for sharing

  10. Mario Mohl

    December 1, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    FULL asymmetric?? Wassat?

  11. Gregor Vengust

    December 1, 2017 at 11:35 pm

    Way to heavy on the breaks. Flying te same wing and newer use so much brake. I'm suprised that she takes so much. I have few thermaling videos with the wing on my channel if you're interested. Take care.

  12. Dave B

    December 2, 2017 at 6:41 am

    Another example where a wing with a frame, i.e. hang glider might have a bit more margin of safety since the air itself isn't part of the airframe as it is with a tension-only wing system.

  13. Darren Brown

    December 3, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    Think I'll stick to hang-gliding!

  14. awkBOTS

    December 3, 2017 at 11:50 pm

    Interesting watch, thanks for sharing

  15. Vincent Praz

    December 4, 2017 at 10:08 am

    You have a very gentle wing đŸ˜‰

  16. Peter N

    December 5, 2017 at 1:04 am

    Love your video man, So honest!! it's worth a thousand videos of perfect flying. To your compliment:- you hit MAJOR SINKING AIR, The launch site was within range and you SUCCESSFULLY landed on your launch site AWESOME!!!. Option 2 would be to SAFELY land at the bottom of your hill if in range. Option 3 is to land anywhere you can SAFELY, LEARN from it and go "FLY ANOTHER DAY". I am subscribing to your videos.
    I would love for you to put your videos out to REAL EXPERIENCED pilots to show HOW NOT to get into situations and also how to DEAL with it when you are in them. They WILL respond because they LOVE the sport and in the case of TEST PILOTS for new wings have often put their life on the line to keep YOU safe. I like RUSSELL OGDON from OZONE but they ALL meet the standard for me and they can really give your site a LIFT.

  17. Enjoying The Sun 577-Jersey Customs

    December 5, 2017 at 6:33 pm

    phuck that daytime flying thermal shit..surprised you didnt toss the sheet out..Ill stick to the smooth air with a fan on my ass đŸ™‚

  18. Shawn Raymond

    December 6, 2017 at 6:16 am

    check your shorts

  19. stefanakise

    December 6, 2017 at 5:30 pm

    keep on, keeping on!!!

  20. Nick Bubb

    December 6, 2017 at 5:56 pm

    Great video dude. You thermal and fly very well. I can see why things got out of hand though. You appear to fly very heavy on the brakes coupled with a wrap in general flight. You fly very close to the stall when thermalling. When the [email protected] hit the fan it appears you are over compensating purely because how heavy you generally are on the brakes. That said, your a good pilot.

  21. Chris Hover

    December 6, 2017 at 9:01 pm

    Thanks for sharing, it's good to analyse these things yourself as you have done and are doing. I can say from experience that don't try and think about this one too much until you've done an siv, because however you interperate this pre siv, you'll see it with different eyes after. Needless to say you could have killed it off early to stop the cascading collapses, but it takes training. The real battle for me was the fight to get the confidence back, took a good year, and siv course before I got my mojo back. Hope it's not the same for you buddy, if you are though there's some good podcasts on the paraglider.com about dealing with fear. I couldn't fly for more than 10mins without having to land, did that for a long time but i got over it but plugging away and learning about weather, a lot. God luck, Good video, keep them coming.

  22. RĂ¼diger Stenger

    December 14, 2017 at 8:58 am

    well made, regards from germany

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